Comments on: Errant Injuries http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/ "You never paint what you see or think you see. You paint with a thousand vibrations the blow that struck you." --Nicholas de Stael Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:57:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jade Borg http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-34821 Jade Borg Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:37:09 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-34821 That's pretty cool I went through a period where I was doing some of Baron Baptiste’s yoga workouts. It was great for me, and for my back. We have a friend who hurt her back as well. We got her Rodney Yee’s back-centric Yoga workout, though I think she liked more than the exercises, and IIRC it helped her as well. There are lots of right ways. Nice blog <a href="http://www.gpjobsaustralia.com/" title="Work as a Doctor in Queensland Australia">Jade Borg</a> http://www.gpjobsaustralia.com/ That’s pretty cool
I went through a period where I was doing some of Baron Baptiste’s yoga workouts. It was great for me, and for my back. We have a friend who hurt her back as well. We got her Rodney Yee’s back-centric Yoga workout, though I think she liked more than the exercises, and IIRC it helped her as well. There are lots of right ways.

Nice blog

Jade Borg
http://www.gpjobsaustralia.com/

]]> By: heather http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-25039 heather Sat, 31 May 2008 19:51:57 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-25039 I believe you misread my reply to you. I said, "<i>even in cases where</i> practices like yoga and meditation can’t directly do something", which is certainly not the same as saying that it cannot directly do something in general. I do not believe in making blanket statements about yoga or any other practice being able to sort out any physical/medical issue, which is why I included that caveat---to me that's just as foolish as saying a visit to the doctor can cure all ills. Every injury and person is a bit different. I believe you misread my reply to you. I said, “even in cases where practices like yoga and meditation can’t directly do something”, which is certainly not the same as saying that it cannot directly do something in general. I do not believe in making blanket statements about yoga or any other practice being able to sort out any physical/medical issue, which is why I included that caveat—to me that’s just as foolish as saying a visit to the doctor can cure all ills. Every injury and person is a bit different.

]]> By: Reiki http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-25037 Reiki Sat, 31 May 2008 17:04:04 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-25037 There is nothing worse than a back (tailbone) injury. It can linger for years and lead to further back problems. I think that when Heather says that yoga or reiki can't directly do something, I disagree. I think that yoga and reiki (among other options) are not just for pain management, but have been proven to effecttively do plenty of good. There is nothing worse than a back (tailbone) injury. It can linger for years and lead to further back problems. I think that when Heather says that yoga or reiki can’t directly do something, I disagree. I think that yoga and reiki (among other options) are not just for pain management, but have been proven to effecttively do plenty of good.

]]> By: heather http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-20980 heather Tue, 06 May 2008 12:25:19 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-20980 <b>Reiki:</b> Even in cases where practices like yoga and meditation can't directly do something, they can definitely help a person to handle pain, or to relax muscles (which almost invariably helps, since pain causes us to tense muscles which then in turn often aggravates things or causes additional problems). That's why I tend to feel that as long as you're being careful and aren't doing things that will cause more damage, there's little reason <i>not</i> to try such things. There isn't much too lose, and there's a lot to potentially gain. <b>Robin:</b> I try to avoid 'self-diagnosing' as such, just because there are so many symptoms that overlap between things, and I certainly don't have a doctor's experience in teasing apart those knots. The internet, I've found, is often only semi-helpful in giving you an idea of where to start. And since correct diagnosis really does require a lot of experience and training, it's almost guaranteed to make a doctor ignore your results if you try it, since you can end up biasing the information you give them due to your assumptions about what you might have. I think there is a dividing line between being an informed consumer of medicine and trying to do a doctor's job for them and tell them how to treat you. The former is very important, but if you go over the line into the latter you can end up harming your health. <b>Cian:</b> Ouch, amazing how you can do so much in the military and it ends up being a beautification project that injures you long-term! Luckily my lower back is actually hardly hurting at all lately, I think due to the stretching and my increased physical activity lately. I'm hoping this time to keep up with the physical activity rather than get distracted by other things! :D Reiki: Even in cases where practices like yoga and meditation can’t directly do something, they can definitely help a person to handle pain, or to relax muscles (which almost invariably helps, since pain causes us to tense muscles which then in turn often aggravates things or causes additional problems). That’s why I tend to feel that as long as you’re being careful and aren’t doing things that will cause more damage, there’s little reason not to try such things. There isn’t much too lose, and there’s a lot to potentially gain.

Robin: I try to avoid ’self-diagnosing’ as such, just because there are so many symptoms that overlap between things, and I certainly don’t have a doctor’s experience in teasing apart those knots. The internet, I’ve found, is often only semi-helpful in giving you an idea of where to start. And since correct diagnosis really does require a lot of experience and training, it’s almost guaranteed to make a doctor ignore your results if you try it, since you can end up biasing the information you give them due to your assumptions about what you might have. I think there is a dividing line between being an informed consumer of medicine and trying to do a doctor’s job for them and tell them how to treat you. The former is very important, but if you go over the line into the latter you can end up harming your health.

Cian: Ouch, amazing how you can do so much in the military and it ends up being a beautification project that injures you long-term! Luckily my lower back is actually hardly hurting at all lately, I think due to the stretching and my increased physical activity lately. I’m hoping this time to keep up with the physical activity rather than get distracted by other things! :D

]]> By: Cian http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-20847 Cian Tue, 06 May 2008 02:08:15 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-20847 Congratulations on finding something that helped and having the courage to go ahead and do it. It is a shame that your doctor decided it was all in your head as if that were truly separate from your body. I have learned a lot from the writings of Dr. Andrew Weil and Dr. Deepak Chopra about the value of medical systems in addition to the allopathic / Western system. Just before I got out of the Army I fell (from a swingset, mandatory community beautification project) and landed on my right hip. I tore some of the muscles in my back and have the occasional stab of sciatica. I went through a period where I was doing some of Baron Baptiste's yoga workouts. It was great for me, and for my back. We have a friend who hurt her back as well. We got her Rodney Yee's back-centric Yoga workout, though I think she liked more than the exercises, and IIRC it helped her as well. There are lots of right ways. Next time we get together I will rub your back / neck if you like. With some of Cathy's tension related headaches I find they start as far down as the hips. I try to work those muscles when in preventive mode. If I am working on a current headache starting between the shoulder blades and going up to the scalp seems to work best. Congratulations on finding something that helped and having the courage to go ahead and do it. It is a shame that your doctor decided it was all in your head as if that were truly separate from your body. I have learned a lot from the writings of Dr. Andrew Weil and Dr. Deepak Chopra about the value of medical systems in addition to the allopathic / Western system. Just before I got out of the Army I fell (from a swingset, mandatory community beautification project) and landed on my right hip. I tore some of the muscles in my back and have the occasional stab of sciatica.

I went through a period where I was doing some of Baron Baptiste’s yoga workouts. It was great for me, and for my back. We have a friend who hurt her back as well. We got her Rodney Yee’s back-centric Yoga workout, though I think she liked more than the exercises, and IIRC it helped her as well. There are lots of right ways.

Next time we get together I will rub your back / neck if you like. With some of Cathy’s tension related headaches I find they start as far down as the hips. I try to work those muscles when in preventive mode. If I am working on a current headache starting between the shoulder blades and going up to the scalp seems to work best.

]]> By: Robin Johns http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-20846 Robin Johns Tue, 06 May 2008 01:17:08 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-20846 Since getting the internet several years ago, I always self-diagnose before I go to a doctor. It annoys me no end if the doctor dismisses my opinion of my ailment or it's remedy. I would like to think that the doctor would consider my opinion then maybe tell me why I am wrong or right, not just leave me with the feeling he (or she) considers me an idiot. Since getting the internet several years ago, I always self-diagnose before I go to a doctor. It annoys me no end if the doctor dismisses my opinion of my ailment or it’s remedy. I would like to think that the doctor would consider my opinion then maybe tell me why I am wrong or right, not just leave me with the feeling he (or she) considers me an idiot.

]]> By: Reiki http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-19734 Reiki Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:53:05 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-19734 There is no doubt that yoga, as well as other types of relaxation methods (reiki, meditation) can be directly related to actual pain relief. The big argument in the Reiki community is whether Ki actually exists or whether pain relief is soley caused by relaxation techniques in general. I am a long time fan of yoga and agree that it does help in many ways. There is no doubt that yoga, as well as other types of relaxation methods (reiki, meditation) can be directly related to actual pain relief. The big argument in the Reiki community is whether Ki actually exists or whether pain relief is soley caused by relaxation techniques in general. I am a long time fan of yoga and agree that it does help in many ways.

]]> By: heather http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-17855 heather Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:11:00 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-17855 <b>Scott:</b> I'm amazed both at how easy it is to injure one's self, and at how little it can take (sometimes) to make improvements. It can be tough to remember to put in time regularly on something like yoga, qigong, or stretching, but it's surprising how much of a difference it can make. I've never broken a bone and only needed stitches twice in my life because I've never been overly athletic or risk-taking, particularly as a child. But yeah, if you don't live in a bubble there's always that chance, and I refuse to hole up inside! Scott: I’m amazed both at how easy it is to injure one’s self, and at how little it can take (sometimes) to make improvements. It can be tough to remember to put in time regularly on something like yoga, qigong, or stretching, but it’s surprising how much of a difference it can make. I’ve never broken a bone and only needed stitches twice in my life because I’ve never been overly athletic or risk-taking, particularly as a child. But yeah, if you don’t live in a bubble there’s always that chance, and I refuse to hole up inside!

]]> By: ScottM http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-17660 ScottM Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:06:44 +0000 http://www.errantdreams.com/thoughts/2008/04/07/errant-injuries/#comment-17660 Sounds like exactly the right book at the right time. I'm glad you found something that helps so much. It's a little strange to think that two quick events can lead to a lifetime of pain; I suppose all I can do is thank my lucky stars, since any living would expose me to either of your events. Ad a bubble's just not the way to spend life... Sounds like exactly the right book at the right time. I’m glad you found something that helps so much.

It’s a little strange to think that two quick events can lead to a lifetime of pain; I suppose all I can do is thank my lucky stars, since any living would expose me to either of your events. Ad a bubble’s just not the way to spend life…

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